do spellbreaker and obsidian flesh stop *all* kinds of spells? - Guild Wars Forums

eme2512 · Aug 10, 2005, 06:37 PM // 18:37

so, can you cast hex spells on someone with obsidian flesh running? or would obsidian flesh prevent its caster from being targeted by all the kinds of spells (hex, curse, normal, etc.)?

thanks again for answering these questions!
-eme2512

Arcanis Imperium · Aug 10, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

It would be anything that has the word "Spell" in its classification for both.

However, skills, preperations and stances that would effect the target all still work. Especially things like Shouts and Natural Rituals.

The downside to both of these spells is the target cant be healed because a Monk's spells would also be countered.

Torkemada · Aug 10, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03

One way to heal a person with Obsidian Flesh on him, is using signet of Devotion.

eme2512 · Aug 10, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04

do aoe effects still hit you? i would imagine they do --- you are not being "targeted" by a spell in the normal sense. btw about the healing, (as long as you're an ele) if you slap on armor of earth and obsidian flesh, and you have aura of restoration on, that's 60+50+20 armor and you're regenerating on average at least 15 hp every second or two from the spells you are casting. Nothing is going to do any significant damage to that. (you jsut can't move at all... lol)

Arcanis Imperium · Aug 10, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

It would depend.

If the target with Obsidian is the target of a Firestorm, the firestorm wouldnt even cast. But if say the guy next to him is the target, then yes he would feel the effects. At that point its no longer a spell, but rather a source of damage in the area.

DarkAynjil · Aug 10, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by eme2512

do aoe effects still hit you? i would imagine they do --- you are not being "targeted" by a spell in the normal sense. btw about the healing, (as long as you're an ele) if you slap on armor of earth and obsidian flesh, and you have aura of restoration on, that's 60+50+20 armor and you're regenerating on average at least 15 hp every second or two from the spells you are casting. Nothing is going to do any significant damage to that.

Yes, AoE's still hit. If you have OF or SB up, and the guy next to you gets zapped with Chain Lightning, you will get zapped. On the other hand OF is fun to play with because for roughly 15-20 seconds casters can't touch you - while you touch them at will.

Boubou · Aug 10, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Yes, AOE damage will hurt you. It's the way to kill Blessed Griffon as an elementalist.. target the one without spell breaker (if you're lucky enough)

So if the person has spell breaker / obsidian flesh... Flame Burst and Inferno will damage them, you don't have to have a target set to use them, fire storm, meteor shower will damage them (if you manage to cast them).

Arcanis Imperium · Aug 10, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09

I think that's why there are spells like the Mantra's of a mesmer. To be able to ward off attacks that would come when their casting fails.

Also, you have to be careful of close range attacks that dont neccisarily have a target. One of my staple spells is Whirlwind, that just knocks down anyone who gets too close to me, so I can run farther away.

Eonwe · Aug 10, 2005, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Arcanis Imperium

The downside to both of these spells is the target cant be healed because a Monk's spells would also be countered.

Sorry, but that's 100% incorrect. You can still be healed, and still be the target of an ally's spells. Please don't spread misinformation.

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One way to heal a person with Obsidian Flesh on him, is using signet of Devotion.

Or you could just use something like orison... seriously, how can you people even assume that you wouldn't be able to be targeted by an ally's spells. Unless ofcourse you've never used the skill and have absolutley no clue about game mechanics, or even what the hell you're talking about.

Arcanis Imperium · Aug 10, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Really? Well pardon me but that's bullshit.

I mean, if the description says "Cant be the target of spells" then it should apply to all spells, just not your opponents.

Eonwe · Aug 10, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51

Yay, and then we could make the skill completely useless! Gogo brains!

Also, read the skill description for spell breaker, it clearly reads "enemy" spells fail. The description for obsidian flesh clearly reads "enemy" spells as well.

LoneDust · Aug 10, 2005, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Arcanis Imperium

Really? Well pardon me but that's bullshit.

I mean, if the description says "Cant be the target of spells" then it should apply to all spells, just not your opponents.

Perhaps you need to read the skill descriptions again before running your mouth with something you are not sure of.

Zenny · Aug 10, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Well Obsidian Flesh may be misleading since it doesn't specify that it blocks enemy spells only.

But Spell Breaker clearly does.

Obsidian Flesh (Elite) - For 8-18 seconds, you gain +20 armor and cannot be the target of spells, but move 50% slower.

Spell Breaker (Elite) - For 5-15 seconds, "enemy" spells targeted against target ally fail.

Eonwe · Aug 10, 2005, 08:52 PM // 20:52

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Originally Posted by Zenny

Well Obsidian Flesh may be misleading since it doesn't specify that it blocks enemy spells only.

But Spell Breaker clearly does.

Obsidian Flesh (Elite) - For 8-18 seconds, you gain +20 armor and cannot be the target of spells, but move 50% slower.

Spell Breaker (Elite) - For 5-15 seconds, "enemy" spells targeted against target ally fail.

Read the in-game description for obs flesh, not the one on the guru site. Many of the skill descriptions on this site are slightly off.

Zenny · Aug 10, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11

Omg you're right... I'm just having trouble today lol. I'll just stop.. posting.

Here's the correct description if I don't screw up again XD

Obsidian Flesh (Elite) - For 8-18 seconds, you gain +20 armor and cannot be the target of enemy spells, but move 50% slower.

Aug 10, 2005, 06:37 PM // 18:37	#1
eme2512 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/Me	*do spellbreaker and obsidian flesh stop all* kinds of spells?** so, can you cast hex spells on someone with obsidian flesh running? or would obsidian flesh prevent its caster from being targeted by all the kinds of spells (hex, curse, normal, etc.)? thanks again for answering these questions! -eme2512

Aug 10, 2005, 07:51 PM // 19:51	#11
Eonwe Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Guild: Idiot Savants	Yay, and then we could make the skill completely useless! Gogo brains! Also, read the skill description for spell breaker, it clearly reads "enemy" spells fail. The description for obsidian flesh clearly reads "enemy" spells as well. Last edited by Eonwe; Aug 10, 2005 at 08:05 PM // 20:05..

Aug 10, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58	#2
Arcanis Imperium Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: nova Profession: Me/E	It would be anything that has the word "Spell" in its classification for both. However, skills, preperations and stances that would effect the target all still work. Especially things like Shouts and Natural Rituals. The downside to both of these spells is the target cant be healed because a Monk's spells would also be countered.

Aug 10, 2005, 07:03 PM // 19:03	#3
Torkemada Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Argentina Guild: EC - The Epic Crusade Profession: Mo/Me	One way to heal a person with Obsidian Flesh on him, is using signet of Devotion.

Aug 10, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04	#4
eme2512 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/Me	do aoe effects still hit you? i would imagine they do --- you are not being "targeted" by a spell in the normal sense. btw about the healing, (as long as you're an ele) if you slap on armor of earth and obsidian flesh, and you have aura of restoration on, that's 60+50+20 armor and you're regenerating on average at least 15 hp every second or two from the spells you are casting. Nothing is going to do any significant damage to that. (you jsut can't move at all... lol)

Aug 10, 2005, 07:07 PM // 19:07	#5
Arcanis Imperium Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: nova Profession: Me/E	It would depend. If the target with Obsidian is the target of a Firestorm, the firestorm wouldnt even cast. But if say the guy next to him is the target, then yes he would feel the effects. At that point its no longer a spell, but rather a source of damage in the area.

Aug 10, 2005, 07:08 PM // 19:08	#7
Boubou Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Quebec, Canada Guild: L'ordre [LO] Profession: Mo/W	Yes, AOE damage will hurt you. It's the way to kill Blessed Griffon as an elementalist.. target the one without spell breaker (if you're lucky enough) So if the person has spell breaker / obsidian flesh... Flame Burst and Inferno will damage them, you don't have to have a target set to use them, fire storm, meteor shower will damage them (if you manage to cast them).

Aug 10, 2005, 07:09 PM // 19:09	#8
Arcanis Imperium Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: nova Profession: Me/E	I think that's why there are spells like the Mantra's of a mesmer. To be able to ward off attacks that would come when their casting fails. Also, you have to be careful of close range attacks that dont neccisarily have a target. One of my staple spells is Whirlwind, that just knocks down anyone who gets too close to me, so I can run farther away.

Aug 10, 2005, 07:47 PM // 19:47	#10
Arcanis Imperium Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: nova Profession: Me/E	Really? Well pardon me but that's bullshit. I mean, if the description says "Cant be the target of spells" then it should apply to all spells, just not your opponents.

Aug 10, 2005, 08:46 PM // 20:46	#13
Zenny Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Moa Birds [MB] Profession: Mo/N	Well Obsidian Flesh may be misleading since it doesn't specify that it blocks enemy spells only. But Spell Breaker clearly does. Obsidian Flesh (Elite) - For 8-18 seconds, you gain +20 armor and cannot be the target of spells, but move 50% slower. Spell Breaker (Elite) - For 5-15 seconds, "enemy" spells targeted against target ally fail.

Aug 10, 2005, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#15
Zenny Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Moa Birds [MB] Profession: Mo/N	Omg you're right... I'm just having trouble today lol. I'll just stop.. posting. Here's the correct description if I don't screw up again XD Obsidian Flesh (Elite) - For 8-18 seconds, you gain +20 armor and cannot be the target of enemy spells, but move 50% slower.